New Perspectives

New Perspectives is a podcast series from the Sainsbury Centre. For each episode of the podcast, we have invited an artist, writer or researcher to share their own reflections and interpretations of the Sainsbury Centre Collections.

Recorded and produced by Oliver Payne.

Episode 01 with Martin Mahony

Martin Mahony is a lecturer in Human Geography at the University of East Anglia. His research focuses on the history of atmospheric science and technology, and on the politics of climate change. Martin has chosen to talk about a pair of Snow Goggles from Alaska in the Sainsbury Collection.

Episode 02 with Claire Hynes

Claire Hynes is a lecturer in Literature and Creative Writing at the University of East Anglia. She writes fiction, non-fiction, memoir and theatre monologues. Claire has chosen to talk about the Shrine Figure of a Mother and Child, from Osogbo, Nigeria.

Episode 03 with Carol Jacobi

Carol Jacobi is an art historian and a curator at Tate Britain and has recently published Out of the cage, the art of Isabel Rawsthorne. Carol has chosen to ask, ‘When Francis Bacon painted Isabel Rawsthorne, who did he see?’, with regard to Three Studies for a Portrait of Isabel Rawsthorne.

Episode 04 with Karis Upton

Karis Upton is an artist whose work explores concepts of identity, body politics, interpersonal relationships and modern re-readings of mythology. Karis walks us through the Sainsbury Collection, reflecting on a drawing by Pablo Picasso, a painting by Leonora Carrington and a bronze from Benin.

Episode 05 with Tom Greaves

Dr Tom Greaves is Associate Professor of Philosophy at the University of East Anglia, his research focuses on philosophical traditions that engage with our lived experience of the natural world. Tom joins us in the Sculpture Park to talk about bronze artwork Man of Stones by Laurence Edwards.

Episode 06 with Philippa Snow

To coincide with the publication of her book: ‘Which as you know means violence: on self-injury as art and entertainment’, writer Philippa Snow joins us in the gallery to discuss the painting Two Figures in a Room by the artist Francis Bacon. In this podcast, Philippa looks at the complex relationship between sadomasochistic sex and the act of painting.

Please be aware that this podcast contains strong language, violence, and sexual content.


Episode 07 with Sara Sallam

Egyptian artist Sara Sallam reflects on her experience of encountering ancient Egyptian objects in the Sainsbury Centre during her residency in late 2022, and considers what happens when these objects are understood as artworks. Sara Sallam works with photography, film, and writing, often re-appropriating archival material and self-publishing books. Through her work, she reflects on growing up in Egypt, criticising the colonial attitudes embedded in tourism, archaeology, museum practices, and photographic archives that prevent Egyptians from relating to their past.